>> no. >> reporter: did you ever meet him? plus, get $250 back when you buy an eligible phone. i said i dont know who you are and he said i'm detective can goodwin. i had the officers go out and get photographs, pull arrest records. >> trying to entertain the little girl? >> yes. >> did you like her? try move free today. >> he drew attention to himself. now lou castro had slipped away, left wichita. >> i called mom after school to have dinner with her. there should have been credit records, driver's license record, and all sorts of records and we could find none. one thing was adding up, the death toll of commune members. one of the officers in the county dated one of the women there for while, huh? judge josephf read to the court. can you help us pour the foundation too? it was really hard. it was the angels inhabiting his body who would make these threats and so the next morning he'd wake up and be like mama, i love you. it was like being so special and being around this thing that nobody else gets to do. >> did you go to the bank that day? >> low castro of wichita is now joe vanegas of tennessee? it is initially ruled a suicide. Angel's Landing was a community of free-spirits with Lou Castro at its center. here's the very difficult part of your story. and now you're hearing trish is dead, huh? >> you were always prepared. >> the sister recalled trisha had gone with a guy way back when. i'm dara brown. but those girls lost -- i can't evenen imagine. >> reporter: he would have become like the adoptive father then? >> reporter: kinda flashy or ostentatious? once the photos are out of of the envelope he moves them with his fingernails and doesn't pick them up by his fingers. it happened suddenly. >> after they finished, i contacted the manager and asked if i could collect the dishes and glasses they had used at that table. >> reporter: he knew exactly what you were doing? so, i mean, we were close, but we fought like siblings. uh-huh. >> you were the little girl who got a horse for your birthday? >> yes. >> he did it somehow, some how, he found a way to aumter. >> probably. he'd become more than a client. a slice above. >> i was just pretty much just tired of me carrying all that information myself. >> lou castro was daniel perez. that's what the extra menu's for. mysterious accidents. sisters emily and sara watched as the family commune patriarch lou tried to cheer everyone up. >> he would say that even though we couldn't see her, she was there. the day began normally enough for the sisters. there's a big infusion of insurance money. >> you really can't. >> i had if nothing to do with anyone's death. we had suburbans, tahoes, trail blazers -- big trucks, duallies. your acceptance is guaranteed. Angels & Demons, Part 2 hey baloney here. >> reporter: so in late 1998. mona and cody's younger sister lindsey ended up leaving corpus christi and settled near rapid city, south dakota, where, one christmas, cody paid them a visit. >> i did. could lou recognize the cars or people in the photos. yes, i'm in art school. Now, commune members have courageously decided to tell their stories in hopes of helping others. emily got married too. >> abshoutly. thanks to move free ultra i keep up with this little one. >> and the d.a. >> reporter: and daniel, their inside man, delivered the mother load. right? es to stop the cycle of odors try febreze car vent clips. they had to wait. >> for what reason? a few minutes go by a splash, a little but of a scream, like a shreek and then he came in and he was out of breath and he looked sad and his arms were wet. >> the investigation would lead into the supernatural. he tells me that if my mom would have only been on the plane, that he says, you know "i would have taken your sister and we would have left." and help heal your skin from within with dupixent. >> we were all having meals together. you know, he didn't work. >> reporter: detective goodwyn decided he was going to have to find a new angle on the enigma of angels landing and lou castro even if he had to work around the clock. and in early 2003, from the shadows, the detective was eyeballing the commune, zeroing in on lou castro. er >> what was that thing he put together you got pulled into? rifling through angels landing trash cans hadn't worked. i delivered money and i got paid for it. i wanted to stay. you didn't have to go very far down the poper trail to realize he didn't sign anything. it turned out to be far more sinister than anyone could imagine. >> yes. >> reporter: he wasn't going to fall for it? >> reporter: just two years after leaving missouri to make a new start near wichita, kansas, the two sisters were still living in angels landing. this is lifetime coverage as long as you pay your premiums. no charges in any of the other mysterious deaths. it's what you do. Change. he manipulated family members into using their own names to buy all that real estate and lavish toys. >> my mom said emily -- i think saurau was in the car. >> i'm natalie morales. which is free with your service, you can take a spin through on demand shows or stream live tv. Watch Dateline NBC - Season 24, Episode 41 - Angels & Demons: Mysterious deaths inside a traveling commune are investigated in a case that would span over 10 years. >> you thought there was a criminal scheme goin' on here? >> reporter: how would he know whether she was supposed to be or not? the nemesis of detective ron goodwin who would not give up his real name was behind bars after conit fesing to id fraud but he was just getting started. >> and then, you're, what, goin' back to school and -- >> yep. and lou and i were gonna go to davis moore. really? >> raised my suspicion he was hiding from law enforcement. >> did that work? and that was something that we had to look at without violating any of his rights. >> you worry about that? a huge comfort. civic-minded lou was showered with high-fives from the city council after he donated $19,000 towards a brand new police vehicle. and as the clouds lifted over angels landing, shiny new rides appeared in the drive. >> we found all this vidio on the computers inten itten. >> she had hit a gravel truck head on. lou, who had money and lots of spare time, was the patriarch. >> reporter: and the smoke kept, billowing when goodwyn learned about the death of trish hughes. he said emily, it's time and i, said okay. spans 15 years. so roll up those sleeves. >> reporter: he knew his way around a vehicle? and she said that mona and lindsey had left on a plane, and the plane had never reached its destination. >> she would do anything for him. >> i'm no one in particular. >> he takes them and holds them between his palms. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. >> my sister and i used to play together when we were younger. and that can didn't occur. $9.95? >> reporter: and after a decade-long obsession, the detective's hunch would be proved right. >> going to a dealership and buying a corvette was like going, to a toy store and picking out a model car. and -- we didn't really do chores. ir with your parents. >> reporter: you were the little girl who got a horse for your birthday? Uploaded by >> you'd think nobody could have these dark stories that are part of your life. marie yovonovich was threatened to be removed. they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! >> no, sir. lou's name. just as goodwyn was feeling stuck, another tragedy was about to shake angels landing. >> amber was the angel of death. really? he landed on the obituary and, bingo, there was lou's name. they moved in with lou and his, family commune in the spread they called angel's landing. >> your very own angel. there was lou, his fiance and their daughter. >> yes. ♪ 'cos i know what it means ♪ to walk along the lonely street of dreams ♪ ♪ here i go again on my--- you realize your vows are a whitesnake song? >> we checked the fbi databases and private databases. yes. >> it was very traumatic. premium sliced meats have no by-products. >> sarah and emily's whole terrifying saga began when she was 17 and emily 10. a supernatural world began to emerge after their mom got to know the man known as lou in 2001. >> no. >> that was the plan for the afternoon? coming up the dark truth at the heart of angel's landing. you can share 1, 3, or 10 gigs of data between lines, mix in lines of unlimited, and switch it up at any time. >> was he happy with what you showed him? >> trish was floating in the shallow end of the pool, face down. 11 weapons, guns inside the house. we were just having fun. >> and that would recharge the, batteries of the angels hundreds of thousands off years old. >> and turns out the authorities were very, very interested in what you had to say? >> reporter: when cody was growing up in corpus christi in the mid 90's, his mom, mona, was going through a difficult divorce and financial trouble. >> nobody saw it. and he said, no, emily, we don't. >> he would rape me. we really had no clue. and, castro, walking into a bank in tennessee, was about to make a big mistake. >> and she's hearing this described? >> her sister went to the missouri state highway patrol to express their belief that this, in fact, was a murder. so innocent she waitd and waited for lou to bring her back to life and for years her death remoned an accidental drowning. mona, cody's mom, had also found a boyfriend, a rapid city realtor and experienced private plane pilot. no sooner had he settled down in greater kansas city, than his family commune was on the move again. >> i did. we're like "where did we pick up a brother?" i thought this was a no by-products call? something wasn't adding up. i had everything i wanted. Season 28, Episode 40. he didn't know how or why. >> very much so. in severe cases, pneumococcal pneumonia can put you in the hospital. dark threats involving the. >> yeah. >> reporter: none of the car purchases, property deeds and utility bills at angel's landing were under the name lou castro. >> yeah. so, let's make this the summer of loving your gut. you're breathing on me! >> and it lists myself, my two sisters, and her brother lou. >> at first, i was really upset. >> it was usually really late at night and so she would be sleeping in her house. >> reporter: he is still a mystery man. >> reporter: and then, he was dead? >> reporter: emily was 17, but sara was nearly 24 and edging away from the smothering nest. but you're able to put the picture together for them? >> there were more witnesses. >> reporter: later, more shocks in store. >> we got the call that he had been crushed under a car he was fixing. when "dateline" continues. he had what appeared to be unexplained wealth, drew attention to himself with parties, high optioned vehicles. how much guts does she have? >> yes, sir. and, you know, i looked forward to meeting him. Daniel Perez, 55, was also found guilty of 27 other counts that included allegations of sexual abuse of minors during his time as the leader of a Wichita, Kansas, commune known as Angels Landing. >> reporter: while the girls' mom resumed her real-estate business, brian worked as a mechanic and lou organized the down time. >> emily had been on her way home from school when she got a call from detective goodwin. >> that was his big go to thing with you? >> bad things happen to people that know you. jennifer found them just the right parcel, but even after turning over the keys, there was something about that lou castro guy, that emily's mom found, irresistible. >> lou was continuing to confound the it officers by not givingthem his real name. >> that was in his powers? >> i didn't think so. >> did he sit emily and trish down and predict her death? see the world with this guy. only activia has billions of our live and active probiotics. >> how'd you do that? i said i was happy and he took that as a slap in the face and i stopped talking to him. >> little lavish, but -- pretty normal stuff. >> many corvettes, a few dodge vipers. adults with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. land o' frost premium. >> reporter: and secretly, daniel decided to take action. >> it didn't smell right. what if he's right and he is a seer? trish was dead. >> and with emily's story she had the evidence of the greivis crimes. 4 >> they'd bring me pictures, "do you -- can you identify these people?" yeah. i never have been able to stand that thought. >> he had been crushed under a. vehicle. >> he would threaten to talk you to purgatory so you would forever be in limbo. it would make anyone a monster. and that's just what was expected. they trickled out their storaides, fearful they might be implicated. >> sure. >> underlying his suspicion, he theorized he had a drug case. summed up their case against 55-year-old daniel perez. >> before trisha died, there was, three corvettes and everybody else had an suv. >> but it was the fraud charges that reveal what he was all about. emily wrote a letter to lou while he was serving time for id fraud. y difficult part of your story. >> i can't explain it. you got to leave your neighborhood, your playmates, your class kids. >> reporter: so in december 2009, nearly seven-years after the wichita investigation began, detectives goodwyn and snyder and the fbi agent sullivan got their first break -- the email from daniel. you've all just had lunch a few hours before. and he started driving me to my house and i said, dad, we have. >> i knew that my parents were getting divorced. >> like trying to drive a wedge between my sister and i. >> they faxed that to me that day. this is the incident in which sarah accused perez of forcing her to videotape a young girl while she was getting dressed. who are you? >> i loved her. >> all ruled accidents. every time the coughers were low, someone would die? my mom washes the dishes... ...before she puts them in the dishwasher. >> kind of. you'll also get this free beneficiary planner. >> he was very angry with me. it was an agonizing 20 minutes. occupants were unawater. >> he would give this terrible grin that just looked evil. he has pics of you on his phone. and my dad was always there for dinner and things like that it seemed like. Lou Castro Murdered one of His Followers, Patricia Hughes, at the Angel’s Landing … >> any smoking guns? a single beach sandal floated on the water's surface. >> i have ptsd. >> reporter: everything was easy sailing for the girls until their parents' lives went in different directions. >> reporter: as cody was praying for a miracle, mona's sister lisa also got a phone call, from another sister. >> there should have been credit records, driver's license records and we could find none. for years he could not shake the place, or the people who lived there, from his mind. >> yes. >> authorities were interested in what you had to say? >> how unusual is that that the fbi cannot come up with a name and i.d. >> correct. >> i think that's a pretty common thing for people unthese types of situations. >> right. >> even then? then they get released back into the air so you smell them later ew. >> yeah, pretty much. >> it took a lot of questioning and lots of tears and lots of detective goodwin telling me that it was going to be all right and that i wasn't in trouble. it breaks my heart. castro. >> yeah. >> half a million? i followed them to a restaurant on the north end of town. A young mother drowns while seemingly trying to rescue her 2-year-old daughter from a swimming pool at a commune. >> yeah. get down to sometimes less than 5,000 and that's around the time somebody was going to die. ask about prevention. >> reporter: ron enlisted another big gun to help find castro, fbi supervisory special agent john sullivan. >> reporter: six weeks after the plane went missing, lisa and cody got the news they were dreading. he realized that if he could find a way to generate capital without having to work, he could have access to whatever sorts of things his heart desired. >> did you believe it? things including me and my sisterer. >> and this is "dateline". plus, they come in a range of scents including extra light. they never fought in front of us or anything. ♪ trelegy. and making people terrified. so the other young mom in the, family brian's wife trish sometimes stepped in to referee their sibling rivalry. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy and the power of 1 2 3. >> and your dad was part of another family back when but -- >> i mean i still visited my dad and i still loved my dad, but that's just not where i was going to live. >> reporter: and you still did not know who he was. >> i said i'm finally going where i want to go and doing the. >> reporter: you were the princess of the house? Please note: the cover image shown is for illustrative purposes only and covermount gifts are not included. he had to practically carry me into the house because i was terrified. we were grateful that there was somebody that was -- had taken control and was keeping us in the loop also. >> beyond emily's account, they put on an expert witness for the small bruises on the head consistent with finger pressure. sports cars? if you take asthma medicines, don't change or stop them without talking to your doctor. >> for you, too. Angels Landing, known previously as the Temple of Aeolus, is a 1,488-foot (454 m) tall rock formation in Zion National Park in southwestern Utah, United States. they would do a lot together. and i had gotten extremely upset. and, had significantly less itch. a local detective in wichita was also taking an interest in the plane crash, and the death of trish hughes, and in whatever else might be going on at angels landing. now as he faces charges of first degree murder, sex crimes and fraud, he took the stand in his own defense. Tonight on NBC’s Dateline NBC, Dennis Murphy seems to be into the case of cult chief Daniel Perez, often known as Lou Castro, who advised his followers at Angel’s Touchdown that he was a 1,000-year-old angel who might see the longer term and heal their accidents. and i had just lost my mom and i couldn't stand the thought of losing my dad. i thought about killing myself but i nvr thought about leaving. dud you rig that plane to crash and kill those people? great. a slice above. it's hard to explain but i loved lou. >> they allege even though she may have been a willing. rugged territory. participant in her own death, it was nonetheless perez that held her head under the water. castro. as the investigators call aev within with links to castro, they took tuse south texas. >> he said we really needed to go. >> that was the first time i had seen lou castro in print. >> yes. >> they all knew lou, but they didn't know lindsey's mom. >> young woman telling the story what she saw and took part unas a little girl, you got murder case? >> reporter: lies? >> reporter: the family was in a state of shock. and i just said, "i'm -- i can't. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. ask your doctor or pharmacist about prevnar 13®. >> they said it was an accident. he said for a seer he needed to have a pure little girl to have sex with him so he could survive. here's to progress. how are you going to be raping an individual and they're not going to run to a police officer standing right there and say this is taking place? another young woman had joined the commune and soon lou and she were engaged with a little girl on the way. castro and his common law wife answered the it door. >> coming up, investigators finally get inside the doors of the commune. this is not gonna have a miraculous ending? >> no, sir. >> reporter: pretty normal. Climb to the top of Angel's Landing in Zion National Park and you'll have an incredible view of Zion Canyon and the surrounding cliffs. >> he tried another fingerprint ploy. >> no. >> he knew where people's buttons were? >> were you jealous oof emily? he was very careful. how was that approached to the family, we're moving to tennessee. there was no commune and no cult. >> he related to us how lou castro and the others had moved to a residence in columbia, tennessee. plenty. lou now wanted to be called joe. >> he said we're going to go to the dealership to look for a car. and something else happened. and he said this whole move was for me. south dakota. >> reporter: and someone new gives a first look in the angels landing world. and the 12-hour pain relieving strength of aleve. it turns out trish, monnau and lindsey and emily and sarah's mother who died in a car crash had all two things in com. that she is the one that was doing it? and daniel wanted to know more about this lou character sara was telling him about. >> emily, trisha's toddler and trigs herself were sitting at a table and the 11-year-old emily believed him to be, had a, vision. >> now where is your mom when all this is going on? we were reluctant to talk to his girlfriend because, again, we did not want to tip off lou castro or anybody else. there was a lot of drinking. >> i do. >> there's no such thing. >> reporter: was there something a little creepy about it? we'd go swimming. >> that's extremely unusual, especially in this day and age because usually everybody has a trail. she, cody and cody's young sister lindsey moved in with their good friends trish and lou from the apartment complex. In fact, reaching the top of the landing can be unnerving at times as you have to climb up some steep, and narrow, stretches of rock. and hit the town with these girls. exactly. >> right. that summer, 2001, their mom jennifer was showing houses to a new client, a man named lou castro who, with his long hair, and western hat, looked for all the world like a well-heeled young cowboy. >> the prosecution are going to put together a story that you're a very unlucky guy with all these people dying around you every few years and munby coming in. >> we had a great relationship. >> uh-huh. and president trump says u.s. and china has come to it a partial trade agreement and requires china to purchase u.s. agricultural products. >> we had kept this a secret for 10 years and no one knew. at least we're learning some new things. is this the weakest point of the case? >> no idea. that's why xfinity mobile lets you design your own data. and i was in his bed every night. i didn't, emily. he said trish is going to die. frir frir in tennessee he was joe. >> cult. When Lou Castro puts together a makeshift family at Angel's Landing, he tells his followers that he is an angel that can see the future. and one evening, she went out and met a guy. the medical examiner determined trish's death was due to a freakishly bad accident. >> there was circumstantial evidence and the star testimony of only one witness, 11 years old at the time of trisha's death. i started crying. >> i'm coming to terms. he missed his wife. they now had grounds to arrest him. >> my dad was devastated. >> in the end it was tenacity, and old-fashioned doggedness. >> reporter: emily might have gone to live with their father, but she remained with the commune. >> he liked it. in the basement. think your copd medicine is doing enough? across town, sara and lou were checking out cars at the dealership when sara's phone rang. when lisa paid a short visit to try to help find her sister and niece, lou was in constant touch with search and rescue. >> reporter: in secret -- without sara knowing -- they brought daniel in and peppered him with questions. there's no way that my mom would allow that to happen to her children. . this date's lame. >> i think that there are people out there experiencinging similar things i did. it's a different kind of wireless network, designed to save you money. Those in average physical condition can make the difficult trek, but it can be mentally challenging with steep switchbacks and sheer drop-offs. >> but there it are a lot of of white hats throughout. >> reporter: he would uncover a supernatural tale of angels and demons. was. >> i worked drug case sz and unexpected weltd so goodwym began to come out. >> right. >> reporter: the new home for all three was a ten-acre mini-farm north of wichita. >> yes. but none of the findings in any of the cases, including brian's, concluded there was foul play. it was like in the mountains. my mom, it seemed like she was always home with us. >> he told everybody what they were going to do and how they were going to goit. what do you do next? like people that we've already died, he could see those people too. which helps keep people outside from accessing your passwords, credit cards and cameras. but i was. i lost my mom and sisterer. >> he told me he was going to take me to purgatory. >> what we saw was a pattern. my dad had called me inside, and he just looked at me. and for eight years they were inseparable travelers. now back to dateline." and on surfaces-so they don't come back for 45 days. This material may be protected by copyright law (Title 17 U.S. Code). i didn't know why. >> no. nothing lasts longer for powerful cough relief. >> but inb your mind you were protecting him? >> he said your mom is right. >> reporter: and it was hard for lou. you're going to kill your father. who are you? yeah, it's a lot. the thought of leaving was scarier than the thought of staying. >> and he would validate it with old biblical stories about how he really needed a little girl and i needed to talk care of him. some light has to come out of all of this darkness. all filled out by his followers. Angel's Landing was a community of free-spirits with Lou Castro at its center. >> he seemed really charismatic and outgoing and friendly and like he had a lot of money. while the officers suspected lou castro was somehow involved they had no hard evidence on which to arrest him. love for your gut. >> it told of several instances where lou had bun dead or an animal had been dead or an animal was sick and he could make them better. you get really excited and he wastleing us he would take care. keep what you watch with you. it's not logical. >> he was very angry with me, scary angry. >> i think we were. i loved her just like another mom. >> you said that. Perez first attracted law enforcement's attention in 2003 when he was living with a small group of people from mixed backgrounds on a 20-acre property called Angel’s Landing. trelegy is not for asthma. but he said the pool needs be clooned so you and trish are going to stay here and clean it. the money had transferred from wichita, kansas, area banks to columbia, tennessee, banks. ♪ -oh, what am i into? based on information sarah's boyfriend, daniel had supplied to the three determined investigators, the fbi was now bird dogging the property. >> reporter: still it was hard for the family to put trish's death behind them. so a lot of it is kind of a kid's dream, huh? helps people find coverage options based on their budget. multiple life insurance policies. and then, a couple hours later, we got the call that he had been crushed underneath a car that he was fixing. breathe happy febreze... la la la la la. i got three horses. Angel’s Landing Commune was an innocuous plot of land in a rural area near Wichita, Kansas where a now-convicted rapist and murderer, Daniel Perez, also known as Lou Castro, held power over a cult. >> that's right. >> and their story is essentially the same. A California woman died in a fall Sunday from the popular site in Zion National Park known as Angels Landing. >> reporter: and a year later in 2009, castro did what they feared, he took off but just as the investigators thought lou castro might have slipped away they got their first big break. and trish -- who was married to brian and had a baby daughter -- took care of the home. >> reporter: and what'd your dad think? that was the first time i had ever seen him cry. but inside emily and the other. gotta love it. well, tyler's off to college... and mom's getting older... and eventually we would like to retire. he said it's okay. >> there was. this time in his real name. >> he shot a gun at my head because he was angry with me. >> reporter: but not everyone in, uniform was joining in the fun. and i know it's too much work. i thought this was a no by-products call? >> reporter: the very thought of being so far away from his dad was too much for cody. now that's one flushin' fresh bathroom. >> and now she's going to take him on? 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